at last! herald permit granted and….
UPDATED
read from the NaSTy paper, johari said herald should not use allah even though the permit is granted… so what the hell is the meaning of ‘no condition’??? pigilah johari!
the star report (no mention what johari said). in fact the opening line mentioned ‘…with no restrictions on the use of allah’.
huh?? one said restriction, one said no. apalah lu orang!!
ORIGINAL POST
…without condition.
came to know of this via anil netto’s blog. anil is a columnist with herald. he received a phone call from fr. lawrence, herald editor informing him of this news. as one who contributes articles to herald, i am naturally happy to hear that too.
good sense prevail after all at the internal security ministry, i see
yes the BM section should not be allowed to be scrapped at all. after all, like someone said, there might be more bahasa speaking catholics (esp. in sabah & sarawak) than english speaking catholics.
i might understand a little if the IS ministry do not allow the use of the word ‘allah’ but i will NOT understand at all if it disallow the bahasa section completely. thank god now the permit is granted without any condition.
while i still mantain that it is not wrong for herald to use ‘allah’, i feel that maybe at the moment, herald outing to stop using allah and get on with its BM publication. as i had mentioned before, the BM section in herald is getting popular these days with many readers(esp. from sabah & sarawak) writing in to the letters column.
you know, thanks to this herald-allah controversy, herald, our catholic weekly seems to get so well known. i’m sure before this controversy erupted, not many of you have heard of herald at all. of course you wouldn’t… herald is not sold or distributed free to the public at all. herald is only sent to catholic churches in the country and to be sold inside the churches. so this fear of the government of herald using allah and/or bahasa will confuse the muslim is very unfounded. also i find it strange and even funny that fatima idrus, a letter writer in malaysiakini, said herald’s use of allah is to proselytise the muslims. (and yes, fatima, i don’t mind at all that the first line of the rukunegara to be change to kepercayaan kepada allah). muslim faith so shaky? and at any rate, as i said, herald not sold/distributed to public, how will muslim get hold of it to read?
ok before i end, i’ll point you to juslo’s blog on this issue, who seemed angry that the government (and some muslims) have made it sound that believing in islam would made you stupid. do hop over to read.
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on December 30th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
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on December 30th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
I don’t see it as an issue.
Without the Bahasa version, it change nothing, and cause no harm. It’s much ado about nothing.
What you can observe is the fact that, the ministers or any UMNO members say something about the others, and the others get panicked and cry, as if the nation is doing a Hitler. This way, it gets the ordinary people to sidetrack from the main issues such as ISA, Hindraf, Altantunya, and the general election.
All UMNO had to do is simply say something, even though they won’t do, and the non-Muslims will panic and run for cover, or appeal for grace.
on December 30th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Maverick, a significant number of Catholics in Sabah and Sarawak go to Malay mass and reads their Bible in Malay. In fact we have done it I guess since the Second Vatican Council.
The last time I check, Sabah and Sarawak are still in Malaysia and the people are still Malaysians. I guess that’s significant enough to be ’something’, is it not?
Don’t make sentences as though you have made a comprehensive view of the whole situation.
on December 30th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
and are we so happy with the renewal as to forget to go after the one who started it all ? are we always so forgiving and forgetfulling ?
We should go after that guy or those guys or whoever shouldn’t we ?
do we always forgive someone who throws shit at us and then say its ok bruder ? that we certainly encourage him/then to do it again and again , making us really innocents fools indeed !
Is that kind of attitude called the non-muslim disease ? If so no wonder those UMNO people behave like that with impunity and so on
on December 30th, 2007 at 11:03 pm
Getting what it should be has nothing to Hurrah!
But at least a question to be posted,
“Why it is so and the consequences of so”l
Especially religion talks about spiritual!
A person can act stupid
but not an officer of noted position to fuss!
To us, he is part of the Government working for us.
To the world at large, he is to show what Malaysia Government is all about!
A word that is common to all can become Muslim in a spark!
Anything else to be sparked?
With court case that cannot even be fast!
The angry and misery of most Malaysian were matched.
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An important religion worldwide, not second to Muslim, at the challenge of one mug!
What kind of Face, or Guts, a Malaysian High Official are allowed?
Will the Government answered
or siding away as in the past?
A shadow is casted where permit is a must!
This “Brave” gentleman has caused an “amazing” thing to be put on the world table without mask!!
on December 30th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
I guess half a loaf is better than none.
Its ironic that the “success” of the National Education Policy has resulted in a large part of the population, including Non-Malays who are more conversant in Bahasa than in English.
Disallowing Bibles and other religious writing to be published in Bahasa is tantamount to restricting the right of such Non-Mulsim people to practice their religion.
on December 31st, 2007 at 8:56 am
An elections ploy? Is this just a temporary permit which will be withdrawn after the general elections (which will see the BN back in power with yet a 2/3 majority) Then the whole sandiwara will start all over again
on December 31st, 2007 at 9:12 am
Huh..if this is really the government’s election strategy, diverting the mass’ view so they won’t see the bigger picture, i think they really are digging their own grave.
I used to be apathetic of the political scenario in Malaysia, now I’m pretty sure which side I’m on.
on December 31st, 2007 at 1:59 pm
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on December 31st, 2007 at 4:08 pm
hey lucia,
thanks for the ‘referral’.
yes, thanks to our joker deputy minister, NOW i’ve heard of ‘herald’!!! haha…
so glad good news has finally come. although i’m not a christian, i would celebrate this as a triumph for free speech.
cheers…
on January 1st, 2008 at 1:56 am
mave
col had responded to you correctly. it makes a lot of difference if the bahasa section is not allowed and indeed is very ‘harmful’ to us catholic community esp. the sabahans and sarawakians. this is the issue here - about the word allah and allowing or not allowing herald to use bahasa.
what you said re: UMNO said something then non muslim panic and so on is NOT the issue… because hey, this happens everytime, isn’t it? at every incident, so it cannot be an issue.
toni
i’m sure the catholic church will not withdraw it’s writ of summons.
as to your Qs about forgetting and forgiving, well i can’t speak for the catholic church (or rather the archbishop of KL, who is herald’s publisher) but i guess sometimes, something do need some forgiving and forgetting… esp. when you know ultimately you can’t win at all. the odds are too much against you.
sharing
thanks for dropping in and sharing your poem.
yes herald getting its permit is nothing to be overjoyed for… since it is something which herald should get in the first case, without all this bising-bising over allah and BM. nevertheless i am relief that herald is allowed to continue with its BM section
kittykat
long time no see.
yes precisely what i trying to tell toni and sharing (your first line).
ya nowadays most people are more conversant in BM than english. so to deny non muslim publication in BM is indeed an infringement of our freedom of religion.
anonymous
hmm… maybe…
col
well some may see it as the gomen digging their own grave but some won’t.
do not vote BN if you don’t want to see UMNO’s power getting stronger!
juslo
er… i wouldn’t really go that far to say this is an indication of triumph for free speech. in the first place, herald’s publication permit should not be an issue at all but because of one stupid guy who made so much fuss about allah (who is not even a mufti or religious teacher). it became such a big issue that it turns into a sandiwara - now it look like oh the gomen is so kind to grant the permit.
on January 1st, 2008 at 3:13 am
Someone @ LKS’ blog wrote: “Election is near. First they create the problems and then go about solving them as though suddenly they are so considerate about other religious sensitivities and rights.”
Exactly.