do not use bahasa…
Post on Dec.29, 2007
… because the government is trying to tell us that muslim have little faith – just by reading christian stuff in bahasa, they will suddenly convert to christianity.
(which is ironic really as herald is not sold to the public at all. herald were sent to catholic churches only).
ok this is latest news on the herald allah issue.
according to malaysiakin, the permit for publication of herald will be renew but with condition that herald take off its bahasa malaysia (BM) section. if that’s the case, i’ll be very disappointed. no, made it angry and sad. i’ll wait till it’s confirm herald has to take off its BM section before i comment further.
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Permit without BM section likely for Herald
Soon Li Tsin
Dec 28, 07 2:45pm
The Catholic Church’s weekly organ, Herald, will most likely get its annual publishing permit but its Bahasa Malaysia section will have to go.
The newspaper’s editor, Father Lawrence Andrew, revealed today that the Internal Security Ministry had sent a directive to the Herald to remove its Bahasa Malaysia section and this will be effective when the new permit is issued.
The 28-page Herald, which is published in four languages – English, Bahasa Malaysia, Chinese and Tamil – has an internal circulation of 12,000.
Lawrence also clarified that the suit – filed by the Herald on Dec 5 in the Kuala Lumpur High Court – is to seek a declaration on the use of ‘Allah’ in Bahasa Malaysia, and this is not directly related to the weekly’s problems with its publishing permit.
The Herald has been told by the Internal Security Ministry – which is in charge of issuing publishing permits – that it cannot use the word ‘Allah’ when referring to ‘God’ in Bahasa Malaysia.
In a statement yesterday, the Herald said it would leave to the court to determine the suitability of using the word ‘Allah’ in Bahasa Malaysia.
It was reported earlier that the weekly had been told to remove its entire Bahasa Malaysia section or the permit will not be renewed when it expires next week.
However, Lawrence said the permit is likely to be given but it will include a clause stating that the BM section be removed completely from the tabloid-size weekly.
The Catholic Church is currently negotiating with the ministry over the directive.
BM needed to communicate with East M’sians
Asked what the Herald will do if negotiations fail and the permit will come without the BM section, Lawrence hinted that they would abide to the directive.
However he said the church would find other ways to provide news in Bahasa Malaysia to its congregation.
“We can still use BM in our in-house magazines and set up a BM bulletin (which does not require a publishing permit). It’s not a problem,” he explained.
Lawrence said the weekly carries four pages of Catholic news in Bahasa Malaysia to cater to East Malaysians who don’t speak Tamil, Mandarin and English.
“How do you communicate with a Kadazandusun? BM is their language. We have to make such news available to them in their language. It’s unreasonable to deny them this.
“We worship in BM. The (BM) Bible has ‘Allah’. We have been doing this for centuries. If you look at the Kamus Dewan (official Bahasa Malaysia dictionary), it uses ‘Allah’ for God and ‘Tuhan’ for Lord,” he said.
Lawrence argued that ‘Tuhan’ is not a suitable Bahasa Malaysia word when referring to God.
Only Muslims can use ‘Allah’
Last week, Deputy Internal Security Minister Johari Baharum said the word ‘Allah’ can only be used in the context of Islam and not any other religion.
“Only Muslims can use ‘Allah’. It’s a Muslim word. It’s from (the Arabic language). We cannot let other religions use it because it will confuse people,” he said when contacted.
“We cannot allow this use of ‘Allah’ in non-Muslim publications, nobody except Muslims. The word ‘Allah’ is published by the Catholics. It’s not right,” he told Malaysiakini.
The use of ‘Allah’ outside of Islam has stirred controversy in Malaysia previously. Four years ago, the Bible in the Iban language was banned because it translated the word ‘God’ as Allah Taala, which resembles Islam’s name for God. The ban was, however, lifted after protests from the Christian community.
A Sabah church has filed a lawsuit against Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and the government for banning the importation of Christian children books from Indonesia which contain the word ‘Allah’.
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December 29th, 2007 on 2:17 PM
long time no see my friend… it’s seldom that we see eye-to-eye…
Believing in ‘Islam’ Would Make You Stupid and Vulnerable?
http://juslo.blogspot.com/2007/12/believing-in-islam-would-make-you.html
December 29th, 2007 on 4:51 PM
Thanks for the news snippet, Lucia. Was wondering why they needed to use ‘Allah’ in BM.
December 29th, 2007 on 10:35 PM
how silly an ardent of Islamism like him can be especially if he is saying as well that ‘bahasa malayu’ can only be used by muslim and not by any non-muslim, taking the claim that their ancestor was using it initially! Then this will make full sense for his stupidness to enclose his so called islamic moral principle. And practice his attempt to implement Islamic values in all aspects of life. Oppositely that would includes ….
destroying his computers; take off his western coat; don’t eat Kentucky chicken; don’t travel by aircrafts made from west; don’t use … and don’t eat …. and a lot of dons …… o! my allah! certainly he’ll be backpacked into the jungle!
December 30th, 2007 on 3:02 AM
juslo
thanks for dropping in my blog. i had also dropped by your blog to add some comments.
CY
you are welcome.
well the church leaders had explained the use of allah. see one of my post earlier.
picatho
ya allah! what you said is so true!
from the comments around blogs, i notice too some picked out certain words of bahasa that belongs to indonesia or arabia or other countries, and said by the same logic, if christians can’t use allah, then malaysia should not use those words too!
December 30th, 2007 on 11:28 AM
hi lucia,
i’m glad u stopped by. feel free to do whatever u want with my post…
i don’t see anything wrong EVEN IF christians want to try to convert muslims – aren’t MUSLIMS THEMSELVES doing the same to christians?? what’s good for the goose must b good for the gander too, unless muslims also agree that they cant prostylesise among followers of other religions??
we the kafirs r subject to islamic propaganda ALL DAY LONG, especially when they interrupt our drama series to announce maghrib prayers n cite a few verses from the Qur’an n Hadeeths TO THE WHOLE NATION INCLUDING THE KAFIRS – hell, they even come out with a fatwa (sabah mufti) saying that what the kafir do (erecting statues by roadside) is HARAM!!! but the kafirs r never worried.
so y should muslims worried about what the kafirs say or write in their ‘INTERNAL memos’ (catholic herald n children’s books)????
the more paranoid they r the more it makes people wonder whether they actually have more DOUBTS about their own religion than conviction???
January 11th, 2009 on 4:31 AM
BN now is the new ”pope”…they can issued any ”decree” that they wanted