killing yourself
Post on Jul.11, 2006
the case of sanggita, a young indian mother, who commit suicide, dragging her children along, hogged the limelight lately.
the speculation was that she imitated the suicide scene from some hindu movie she watched. as such, after her suicide, we suddenly heard of call from deputy women, family and community minister g. palanivel who requested the censorship board to cut out suicide scenes in hinduhindi/tamil movies. this call of him was reported in the BBC too, who mentioned about tamil poverty.
though it may be true that she imitated the suicide scene from a movie, i feel that calling for a censor of suicide scenes in movies was a knee-jerk reaction. how is a movie going to be effective if the scene (which might be critical to the story-line) is cut off? then we also have movies with violent scenes like murderscenes – are we going to call for a censor to those killing and fighting scenes too, in case people, especially youngsters imitate the scenes? what about superman flying around? why didn’t ban the movie, in case a child imitate superman to fly?
i don’t know what drove sanggita to suicide, though a letter written by her had been found, it did not reveal much. i could try to understand how desperate she was and how she felt that she could no longer bear living but what i don’t understand is why should she let her children die too? yes, we could say that she felt there would be nobody to take care of her children if she is gone, so if she wants to die, better take the children along. that to me is very selfish.i remember another case of this chinese man who after a quarrel with his wife, shot himself… but not before he shot his 2 (or was it 3) children too.
i really get angry when i heard of adults committing suicide and killing the children. even all my friends say so too – “if you want to die, you go and die lah, why you let your children die too?”.
i don’t know. maybe some of you would say it is not right for me to judge or question that suicide person why s/he wants to take along others with her/him to the other world. well yes and no. on one hand i might understand why s/he wants to kill herself/himself along with her/his children but on the other hand i feel if she really love the children, s/he should not let the children die.
still on the subject of suicide, remember once i attended a ’suicide intervention’ talk and learned quite a lot of interesting things – how to spot a suicidal person and all that. (you can read my report here). one interesting point is just before the talk begins when the participants (about 60) were given a short questionnaire to answer. in the Q of who will you turn to if you are suicidal, can you believe it that a very small percantage mentioned family. majority of them mentioned friends. as to the Q of have you at one time or other ever consider suicide, alarmingly nearly 50% of them replied in the affirmative!
ok something not so serious now… still on the subject of killing onself.
well… i don’t feel suicidal but at times when i was very depressed, er… i did thought if i want to kill myself, how should i do it? and that’s when the movies/tv shows comes in. yes, true, we will tend to imitate what we see… so it is thanks to the movies, that gave me ideas. haha.
which is the most quick, easy and painless way i wonder? i would have thought using a pointing to the head and shoot is the most quick and painless way… but then where on earth can i get hold of a gun? actually jumping down from a high building is also a quick way but there is a small chance the jump might not killed whereas holding a gun to your head guarantee you die at once. jumping into the sea is totally out from my mind since i know it would be terrible to struggle when swallowing water. i’m afaid of water lah! want to learn swimming also no courage to really let go to learn.
what about taking pills? that is also… painless?… way… just go to sleep and never wake up.
oops. methink i had better stop before i got carried away and someone say that my blog should be banned since, like the movies, i’m giving ideas to people how to kill themselves. sorry ah. 
NOTE: picture above was taken from soon.org, which incidentally has a write-up on ‘five reasons NOT to kill yourself’ and also how to seek help. yes, boys and girls, i must stressed here, suicide is wrong. don’t ever attempt it. seek help if you are depressed. and to those who wants to learn to spot a suicidal person, remember to read again my write-up.
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July 11th, 2006 on 6:31 PM
Errr, is there any organisation out there who can help those too depressed until thinking of committing suicide ah?
lucia: of course there is. the most famous is the befrienders.
KL:
http://www.befrienders.org.my/Â
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http://www.befpen.org/Â
July 11th, 2006 on 7:28 PM
Really sad.
BTW, the term ‘Hindu movie’ is wrong. It should be Hindi movies. Hindu refers to the religion whereas Hindi is the language.
lucia: oh ok, thanks for the correction, adam. i do want to put in ‘hindi’ but don’t khow what made me put in ‘hindu’ instead. we tend to get confused over race and language at times. for example in our church when we talk about the language groups – for the chinese, tamil. tamil we say tamil speaking, right. but chinese when we say chinese speaking is wrong. should be mandarin speaking. we know how to say ‘the indians’ and ‘tamil language’ but when we say ‘the chinese’ we don’t know how to say ‘mandarin language’ (or maybe hokkien, cantonese dialect) but instead we say ‘chinese language.’ i guess this is not really wrong in a way but advisable not to use it.
July 11th, 2006 on 10:25 PM
Suicide is the ultimate in poor decisions. It most certainly follows a bunch of other bad decisions. It is really the epitomy of arrogance as the individual feels they should choose the time of their death and not leave it to God.
I have felt suicidal in the past. Especially when I drank too much or did heavy drugs. This really put me in a depressed state of mind. If I really wanted to take my life I would not need to watch a movie to figure out how I would carry this act out.
One day I was really on the verge of doing it. My brother came by and asked me what I was up to. I told him I’m thinking about slashing my wrists. The jerk laughed at me and went about his business. Pissed me off so bad that I forgot about suicide.
lucia: yes, SA, suicide is actually consider a sin in our catholic church. when one dies of suicide, there will be no funeral service for her/him.
i’m not surprise at one stage you did feel sucidal because it seems that most of all do.
oh btw, slashing the wrist is one method i would not consider. not brave enough and don’t have the will -power to do it.
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July 12th, 2006 on 3:46 AM
Sanggita was a Catholic.My parish priest was asking how could this come to be, especially with Sentire Cum Ecclesia and all going around now, how can we be so insensitive to the sufferings of our fellow brethren.its a question to which I am still figuring out its answer to…
lucia: oh i thought they said sanggita was a hindu but her husband is a catholic. anyway, we shouldn’t blame ourselves for being insensitive (even the person is our same religion) unless maybe if we know that person.
July 13th, 2006 on 12:32 AM
I believe that Christ died for all sins including suicide. Therefore it has no affect on salvation. Once saved always saved. Just don’t expect any awards in heaven if you are suicide. After all Jesus said the poor will be with us always and when Jesus says always it emcompasses eternity.
In fact back to Chrsit work’s on the cross. No one will go to hell for sin. They will be consumed not by their sins, but by their human good. Human good tempts man to find eternity on man’s terms. The results of this are never sufficient to meet divine righteousness and thus these folks will burn for eternity.
lucia: very philosophical, SA.
July 13th, 2006 on 1:21 PM
“http://www.befrienders.org.my/ ” doesn’t seem to be alive, Lucia.
lucia: aiya. easy lah. some funny characters appears after the ‘my’ so you just delete off the funny characters and it works.
July 13th, 2006 on 2:11 PM
funny though, nobody has made any calls to ban WWF wrestling! I consider that to be the more violent and more realistic than any movies shown on our TV
lucia: so true, ah pek, so true. i hate watching wrestling precisely because of the violence and also the way the wrestlers talk with wild actions and loud voices put me off.
July 14th, 2006 on 2:06 PM
True that death is one way out. But it’s sad to think that people take up that option as the way out. And taking their children with them is just plain cruel.
Instead of censorship, I believe another alternative is to mend the society’s state of mind. Depression doesn’t develop out of the blue. There’s always a trigger. Poverty, irrational traditions and unreasonable expectation, are, not all, but the few problems that people should be lobbying for to change.
lucia: thanks for dropping by. yes i agree with you that society’s state of mind should be look into.