Comments on: muslim men spying on churches http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/ exercise your mind! Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:09:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: WIlson Seling Jalong http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193992 WIlson Seling Jalong Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:10:56 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193992 Hi brs and sister in Christ, whatever our churches are, be it catholic, protestants or evangelical, our mission remains the same that is to seek and to know Christ our Lord and saviour. we all must stand united and strong against whatever challenges from the other side which is all out to discredit and find faults in our belief or religion. Keep on praying and leave it to our living God to show those concerned the truth and the straight path to Heaven. I hope and pray that the two non christians who entered the church illegally would be touched by Jesus Christ and become Christian one day. Hi brs and sister in Christ,
whatever our churches are, be it catholic, protestants or evangelical, our mission remains the same that is to seek and to know Christ our Lord and saviour. we all must stand united and strong against whatever challenges from the other side which is all out to discredit and find faults in our belief or religion. Keep on praying and leave it to our living God to show those concerned the truth and the straight path to Heaven. I hope and pray that the two non christians who entered the church illegally would be touched by Jesus Christ and become Christian one day.

]]> By: Concerned Citizen http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193744 Concerned Citizen Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:00:05 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193744 I'm really concerned about what's been happening these past few years in this beautiful country where intolerance, disrespect and distrust has grown to such a degree that such despicable acts of sacrilege and irreverence in a Catholic Christian church by certain individuals who were misinformed and brainwashed by a religious group who is getting very paranoid and insecure about their believers apostasizing. They should point the fingers at themselves and not at others and see where they have gone wrong. I wonder what will happen if it was the other way round. It is very disturbing to even think about it. I’m really concerned about what’s been happening these past few years in this beautiful country where intolerance, disrespect and distrust has grown to such a degree that such despicable acts of sacrilege and irreverence in a Catholic Christian church by certain individuals who were misinformed and brainwashed by a religious group who is getting very paranoid and insecure about their believers apostasizing. They should point the fingers at themselves and not at others and see where they have gone wrong. I wonder what will happen if it was the other way round. It is very disturbing to even think about it.

]]> By: PH http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193693 PH Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:11:01 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193693 The question now is: What is Polis Raja di Malaysia (PRDM) and the leader of 1blackMalaysia doing about it? The question now is:

What is Polis Raja di Malaysia (PRDM) and the leader of 1blackMalaysia doing about it?

]]> By: KakiaYam http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193679 KakiaYam Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:57:55 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193679 was forwarded with some level headed comments... http://libertysentinel.wordpress.com/2009/07/14/sacrilegious-acts-by-unbelieving-spies-in-church/#more-150 KaKiaYam was forwarded with some level headed comments…

http://libertysentinel.wordpress.com/2009/07/14/sacrilegious-acts-by-unbelieving-spies-in-church/#more-150

KaKiaYam

]]> By: Lucia http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193647 Lucia Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:22:09 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193647 deepo yes i'm sure if it is the other way round, we would receive wide condemnation, and you'll see the UMNO politicians quickly jumped up. cel well what they did was very wrong but i wouldn't go that far to label them as satan. likewise to... urumchi that's exaggeration. there might be protests and demos and some people (muslim) taking law into their own hands, but i wouldn't say there would be riots like in xinjiang. fishtail yes i can't understand why they would want to go and consume the host (receiving holy communion). wouldn't it be enough to just sit down and observe? they might not understand the significant or sacredness of receiving holy communion but that should not stop them from partaking in the ritual of another religion. rssmatters ok maybe i should not use 'never' but like what deepo said, i too would like to point out that usually it is the other christian denominations who are very into evangelising. in fact, it is understood the catholics are the most conservative of all the other denominations and the catholics are the worst at evengelising. that's why catholics priests mourn the decrease of the catholics population... because we as catholics do not place priority in evengelising like the other christians do. billy thanks for posting to your blog. yes, mostly only catholics who understand about the 'body of christ' will feel very shocked at what those 2 undercover muslim men did. rssmatters yes you are right. you said it - we should be sensitive and respectful to all religions. and remember it works 2 ways - no one way traffic about it. if muslim wants us to respect their religion, they must respect ours too and vice versa. deepo
yes i’m sure if it is the other way round, we would receive wide condemnation, and you’ll see the UMNO politicians quickly jumped up.
cel
well what they did was very wrong but i wouldn’t go that far to label them as satan. likewise to…
urumchi
that’s exaggeration. there might be protests and demos and some people (muslim) taking law into their own hands, but i wouldn’t say there would be riots like in xinjiang.

fishtail
yes i can’t understand why they would want to go and consume the host (receiving holy communion). wouldn’t it be enough to just sit down and observe? they might not understand the significant or sacredness of receiving holy communion but that should not stop them from partaking in the ritual of another religion.

rssmatters
ok maybe i should not use ‘never’ but like what deepo said, i too would like to point out that usually it is the other christian denominations who are very into evangelising. in fact, it is understood the catholics are the most conservative of all the other denominations and the catholics are the worst at evengelising. that’s why catholics priests mourn the decrease of the catholics population… because we as catholics do not place priority in evengelising like the other christians do.

billy
thanks for posting to your blog.
yes, mostly only catholics who understand about the ‘body of christ’ will feel very shocked at what those 2 undercover muslim men did.

rssmatters
yes you are right. you said it – we should be sensitive and respectful to all religions. and remember it works 2 ways – no one way traffic about it. if muslim wants us to respect their religion, they must respect ours too and vice versa.

]]> By: rssmatters http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193646 rssmatters Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:23:18 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193646 Hi Moo_t, I think you miss my point. My point is using gifts to entice people to switch religion does exist. The reason why I picked that article, as I stated earlier, is Christian is an easier target because of its size. Whether Buddhism (or any other religions for that matter) against followers to convert is not the point. Having said that, I think we all should be sensitive and respectful when comes to others' religions. Hi Moo_t, I think you miss my point. My point is using gifts to entice people to switch religion does exist. The reason why I picked that article, as I stated earlier, is Christian is an easier target because of its size. Whether Buddhism (or any other religions for that matter) against followers to convert is not the point.

Having said that, I think we all should be sensitive and respectful when comes to others’ religions.

]]> By: moo_t http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193645 moo_t Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:47:48 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193645 rssmatters, IMHO, I bet you have not idea of the essence of Buddhist teaching. Buddhism never against the follower convert to other religion, and there is no "apostate" in Buddhism. rssmatters,
IMHO, I bet you have not idea of the essence of Buddhist teaching. Buddhism never against the follower convert to other religion, and there is no “apostate” in Buddhism.

]]> By: rssmatters http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193644 rssmatters Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:13:54 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193644 Hi DeePo, to outside world (or to ignorance people like myself), isn't Protestant or Catholic just a branch of Christian? What I am trying to say is bad apples exist among us. It is easy to pick an extreme bad apple as an example (me included) but that may not generally be represented by the group he/she belong. Cheers. Hi DeePo, to outside world (or to ignorance people like myself), isn’t Protestant or Catholic just a branch of Christian? What I am trying to say is bad apples exist among us. It is easy to pick an extreme bad apple as an example (me included) but that may not generally be represented by the group he/she belong. Cheers.

]]> By: Billy http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193643 Billy Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:25:57 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193643 Being a Catholic, I am really appalled by the behaviour of these two Malays. They have violated the Holy Sacrament of the Church and committed the greatest sin of all. Sham on you people in the islamic religious department. Lucia, I have posted your article on my blog [http://malaysianfirstlast.blogspot.com] to keep all and sundry informed of this dastardly act. :mad :mad :mad Being a Catholic, I am really appalled by the behaviour of these two Malays. They have violated the Holy Sacrament of the Church and committed the greatest sin of all. Sham on you people in the islamic religious department.

Lucia, I have posted your article on my blog [http://malaysianfirstlast.blogspot.com] to keep all and sundry informed of this dastardly act.

]]> By: DeePo http://lucialai.org/2009/07/09/muslim-men-spying-on-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-193640 DeePo Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:44:46 +0000 http://lucialai.org/?p=3520#comment-193640 dear RSSMATTERS, regarding your link that u put there about the buddhist converted to Christianity...mind you, CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL HELP THOSE THAT NEED ASSISTANCE,but we are not allowed to convert ppl in exchanging with d help that we've given earlier. we have our own evangelising method... im not trying to stir up a not-so-good relations of catholic and protestant churches, but i do heard that's d way protestants evangelised. but im not sure. but it's in ur article, rssmatters. dear RSSMATTERS,

regarding your link that u put there about the buddhist converted to Christianity…mind you, CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL HELP THOSE THAT NEED ASSISTANCE,but we are not allowed to convert ppl in exchanging with d help that we’ve given earlier. we have our own evangelising method…

im not trying to stir up a not-so-good relations of catholic and protestant churches, but i do heard that’s d way protestants evangelised. but im not sure. but it’s in ur article, rssmatters.

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