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		<title>By: 83000 batu pahat, johor &#187; Phew! &#8230; A piece of Convent BP preserved&#8230;.</title>
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		<description>[...] your weekend reading pleasure, here&#8217;s two blogs that talked about this issue: 1. Lucia Lai  2. Malaysians Say The Darndest [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pat Lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Lu</dc:creator>
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		<description>Time for affirmative action....

PRESS RELEASE:
Call to stop all racial and religious fanaticism in Malaysia: Pahlawan Volunteers

We reap what we sow.

It&#039;s high time we CONSCIOUSLY STOP all race/religion bashings or taint any community by the actions of a few.

Itâ€™s high time we WALK THE TALK and TOOK ACTION for the sake of our future and the future of our children in this nation.

Hereâ€™s the reason why. Read belowâ€¦

    The Sun, Tuesday, December 4, 2007
    I was merely voicing public concerns: Syed Hood

    KUALA LUMPUR (Dec 4, 2007): Syed Hood Syed Edros (BN- Parit Sulong) has defended his Oct 29 debate in the Dewan Rakyat (Parliament) in which he questioned the display of images of Jesus, Mary and crosses in mission schools.

    &quot;I was merely voicing the concerns of the public at large. I only wanted the Education Ministry to provide a clear explanation on this,&quot; he told reporters in Parliament lobby today.

    Syed Hood stressed that he does not have any problems with mission schools and backed this up by saying that his eldest daughter used to study in the Batu Pahat Convent Primary School.

    He said he was not worried about the possibility of facing sedition charges over his remarks.&quot; Malaysia is a free country. If anyone is upset they can lodge a police report,&quot; he said.

    On Monday (Dec 3), deputy whip and Minister in the Prime Minister&#039;s Department Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz said he had not received any complaints from Barisan Nasional members about Syed Hood&#039;s speech. He said the public can lodge a report with the police.

    Full story, visit http://www.assuntaalumni.com/media/071204-3.html

    More explanations given by Syed Hood, readâ€¦
    â€˜Destroy Statues and Crossesâ€™ MP: My Intentions Misunderstood
    http://www.darnmalaysia.com/2007/12/05/destroy-statues-and-crosses-mp-my-intentions-misunderstood/ 

On no complaints from Barisan Nasional members about Syed Hood&#039;s speech:
Perhaps all BN MPs, with the exception of Loh Seng Kok [Kelana Jaya] and Lim Kit Siang, are too busy attending functions, cutting ribbons, opening ceremonies to be aware of the following:

NATIONWIDE PUBLIC OUTCRY AND COMMENTS; just to name a few websites and blogs,

    * Petition: Respect the Ethos and Character of Mission Schools
      with more than 2,400 signatories to-date
      http://www.petitiononline.com/assunta/petition.html

    * Demolish Statues, Destroy Crosses in Mission Schs, said UMNO MP Parit Sulong
      http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/561471

    * How many mission schools in the country have the cross removed from school emblem?
      http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/04/how-many-mission-schools-in-the-country-have-the-cross-removed-from-school-emblem/

    * Morons of Parliament: Demolish Christian Statues, Destroy the Crosses
      http://www.darnmalaysia.com/2007/11/23/morons-of-parliament-demolish-christian-statues-destroy-the-crosses/

    * Hell Hath No Fury like a Woman Scorned!
      http://zorro-zorro-unmasked.blogspot.com/2007/12/hell-hath-no-fury-like-woman-scorned.html

    * Demand for removal of Christian cross and demolition of Christian statues
      http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/letter.php?itemid=795


â€˜Report themâ€™

    At a press conference, Minister in the Prime Minister&#039;s Department Mohd Nazri Abdul Aziz urged those offended by the remarks to lodge a police report against the parliamentarians involved. &quot;Anyone offended by their remarks can lodge a police report. They have a right to report them,&quot; he said. Saying that no action will be taken against the duo until a complaint is made, Nazri said: &quot;The MPs are not above the law. A seditious statement made in Parliament will be published and once published, the public has the right to complain.&quot; He also assured that the Sedition Act applies to everyone and that the government will not condone any seditious statement by parliamentarians.
    Full story by Malaysiakini, visit http://www.assuntaalumni.com/media/071203-2.html 

It&#039;s high time we did our own house-keeping. HEREâ€™S WHAT WE CAN DO, as individuals, therefore as a collective whole, TO STOP THE ROT in this country we call â€œhomeâ€.

Letâ€™s call on the Government to take disciplinary action on the two MPs and to ensure they are banned from standing in the next General Election as â€œwakil rakyatâ€ for their groundless and repugnant statements madein Parliament. Demonstrate how seriously we take their irresponsible and unsubstantiated comments by the following action:

   1. Download the relevant pages of the actual hansard at http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Attach&amp;type=post&amp;id=338343.

   2. Make police reports and/or send your complaints to Dato&#039; Seri Nazri Aziz and CC the same to the following:

    YB Datoâ€™ Seri Mohamed Nazri bin Abdul Aziz
    Deputy Whip and Minister in the Prime Minister&#039;s Department
    Aras 4, Blok Barat, Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persekutuan
    62502 Putrajaya.
    Feedback Form: http://www.pmo.gov.my/website/webdbase.nsf/w_4?openForm&amp;url=http://www.pmo.gov.my/website/feedbackdb.nsf/pmofb2?openform
    Tel: (03) 8889 4176 &#124; Fax: (03) 8889 4177
    Email: ppm@pmo.gov.my

    Tan Sri Musa Hj Hassan
    Inspector General of Police
    Ibu Pejabat Polis Diraja Malaysia
    Bukit Aman
    50560 Kuala Lumpur
    Tel: (03) 2262 6222 &#124; Fax: (03) 2273 1326
    Email: musa@rmp.gov.my

    Public Complaints Bureau
    Prime Ministers Department
    Online Complaints Form: http://apps.bpa.jpm.my/eApps/bpaiaducmpl/AduCmplPublic/add.do?aplCode=en
    Email: aduan@bpa.jpm.my
    Tel: (03) 8888 7777 &#124; Fax: (03) 8888 7778, 8888 3748

    Parliament Malaysia
    Jalan Parlimen, 50680 Kuala Lumpur
    Tel : 03-2072 1955 &#124; Fax : 03-2070 4676
    Email: info@parlimen.gov.my  


REMEMBER THE CALL TO NATION BUILDING
by His Royal Highness the Regent of Perak, Raja Nazrin:

    Malaysians of all races and religions need to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have a place under the Malaysian sun.

       1. Take personal ownership over the well-being of the country.
       2. Do not succumb to indifference and apathy. Hold on to your ideals. Do not give way to cynicism and opportunism. Believe that you can make a difference.
       3. Choose leaders who were earnest in building unity and did not resort to religious or ethnic posturing to further their careers.

    Raja Nazrin suggested three ways for sustained and effecive nation-building.

        * First, uphold the Constitution.
        * Second, put in place economic and social justice.
        * Third, good governance and a thriving civil society

REMEMBER Negara Kita, Tanggungjawab Kita (Our Country, Our Responsibility).

Let&#039;s build on this together.

Please forward this on to fellow Malaysians nationwide.

Pat Lu
Pahlawan Volunteers
http://www.pahlawan.com.my

Malaysian Mission Schools News Archive - Updated
We are all ONE. When One is harmed, all are harmed.
When One is helped, all are Healed.
http://www.assuntaalumni.com/media/missionschools.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for affirmative action&#8230;.</p>
<p>PRESS RELEASE:<br />
Call to stop all racial and religious fanaticism in Malaysia: Pahlawan Volunteers</p>
<p>We reap what we sow.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s high time we CONSCIOUSLY STOP all race/religion bashings or taint any community by the actions of a few.</p>
<p>Itâ€™s high time we WALK THE TALK and TOOK ACTION for the sake of our future and the future of our children in this nation.</p>
<p>Hereâ€™s the reason why. Read belowâ€¦</p>
<p>    The Sun, Tuesday, December 4, 2007<br />
    I was merely voicing public concerns: Syed Hood</p>
<p>    KUALA LUMPUR (Dec 4, 2007): Syed Hood Syed Edros (BN- Parit Sulong) has defended his Oct 29 debate in the Dewan Rakyat (Parliament) in which he questioned the display of images of Jesus, Mary and crosses in mission schools.</p>
<p>    &#8220;I was merely voicing the concerns of the public at large. I only wanted the Education Ministry to provide a clear explanation on this,&#8221; he told reporters in Parliament lobby today.</p>
<p>    Syed Hood stressed that he does not have any problems with mission schools and backed this up by saying that his eldest daughter used to study in the Batu Pahat Convent Primary School.</p>
<p>    He said he was not worried about the possibility of facing sedition charges over his remarks.&#8221; Malaysia is a free country. If anyone is upset they can lodge a police report,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>    On Monday (Dec 3), deputy whip and Minister in the Prime Minister&#8217;s Department Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz said he had not received any complaints from Barisan Nasional members about Syed Hood&#8217;s speech. He said the public can lodge a report with the police.</p>
<p>    Full story, visit <a href="http://www.assuntaalumni.com/media/071204-3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.assuntaalumni.com/media/071204-3.html</a></p>
<p>    More explanations given by Syed Hood, readâ€¦<br />
    â€˜Destroy Statues and Crossesâ€™ MP: My Intentions Misunderstood<br />
    <a href="http://www.darnmalaysia.com/2007/12/05/destroy-statues-and-crosses-mp-my-intentions-misunderstood/" rel="nofollow">http://www.darnmalaysia.com/2007/12/05/destroy-statues-and-crosses-mp-my-intentions-misunderstood/</a> </p>
<p>On no complaints from Barisan Nasional members about Syed Hood&#8217;s speech:<br />
Perhaps all BN MPs, with the exception of Loh Seng Kok [Kelana Jaya] and Lim Kit Siang, are too busy attending functions, cutting ribbons, opening ceremonies to be aware of the following:</p>
<p>NATIONWIDE PUBLIC OUTCRY AND COMMENTS; just to name a few websites and blogs,</p>
<p>    * Petition: Respect the Ethos and Character of Mission Schools<br />
      with more than 2,400 signatories to-date<br />
      <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/assunta/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/assunta/petition.html</a></p>
<p>    * Demolish Statues, Destroy Crosses in Mission Schs, said UMNO MP Parit Sulong<br />
      <a href="http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/561471" rel="nofollow">http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/561471</a></p>
<p>    * How many mission schools in the country have the cross removed from school emblem?<br />
      <a href="http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/04/how-many-mission-schools-in-the-country-have-the-cross-removed-from-school-emblem/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/04/how-many-mission-schools-in-the-country-have-the-cross-removed-from-school-emblem/</a></p>
<p>    * Morons of Parliament: Demolish Christian Statues, Destroy the Crosses<br />
      <a href="http://www.darnmalaysia.com/2007/11/23/morons-of-parliament-demolish-christian-statues-destroy-the-crosses/" rel="nofollow">http://www.darnmalaysia.com/2007/11/23/morons-of-parliament-demolish-christian-statues-destroy-the-crosses/</a></p>
<p>    * Hell Hath No Fury like a Woman Scorned!<br />
      <a href="http://zorro-zorro-unmasked.blogspot.com/2007/12/hell-hath-no-fury-like-woman-scorned.html" rel="nofollow">http://zorro-zorro-unmasked.blogspot.com/2007/12/hell-hath-no-fury-like-woman-scorned.html</a></p>
<p>    * Demand for removal of Christian cross and demolition of Christian statues<br />
      <a href="http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/letter.php?itemid=795" rel="nofollow">http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/letter.php?itemid=795</a></p>
<p>â€˜Report themâ€™</p>
<p>    At a press conference, Minister in the Prime Minister&#8217;s Department Mohd Nazri Abdul Aziz urged those offended by the remarks to lodge a police report against the parliamentarians involved. &#8220;Anyone offended by their remarks can lodge a police report. They have a right to report them,&#8221; he said. Saying that no action will be taken against the duo until a complaint is made, Nazri said: &#8220;The MPs are not above the law. A seditious statement made in Parliament will be published and once published, the public has the right to complain.&#8221; He also assured that the Sedition Act applies to everyone and that the government will not condone any seditious statement by parliamentarians.<br />
    Full story by Malaysiakini, visit <a href="http://www.assuntaalumni.com/media/071203-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.assuntaalumni.com/media/071203-2.html</a> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s high time we did our own house-keeping. HEREâ€™S WHAT WE CAN DO, as individuals, therefore as a collective whole, TO STOP THE ROT in this country we call â€œhomeâ€.</p>
<p>Letâ€™s call on the Government to take disciplinary action on the two MPs and to ensure they are banned from standing in the next General Election as â€œwakil rakyatâ€ for their groundless and repugnant statements madein Parliament. Demonstrate how seriously we take their irresponsible and unsubstantiated comments by the following action:</p>
<p>   1. Download the relevant pages of the actual hansard at <a href="http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Attach&amp;type=post&amp;id=338343" rel="nofollow">http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Attach&amp;type=post&amp;id=338343</a>.</p>
<p>   2. Make police reports and/or send your complaints to Dato&#8217; Seri Nazri Aziz and CC the same to the following:</p>
<p>    YB Datoâ€™ Seri Mohamed Nazri bin Abdul Aziz<br />
    Deputy Whip and Minister in the Prime Minister&#8217;s Department<br />
    Aras 4, Blok Barat, Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persekutuan<br />
    62502 Putrajaya.<br />
    Feedback Form: <a href="http://www.pmo.gov.my/website/webdbase.nsf/w_4?openForm&amp;url=http://www.pmo.gov.my/website/feedbackdb.nsf/pmofb2?openform" rel="nofollow">http://www.pmo.gov.my/website/webdbase.nsf/w_4?openForm&amp;url=http://www.pmo.gov.my/website/feedbackdb.nsf/pmofb2?openform</a><br />
    Tel: (03) 8889 4176 | Fax: (03) 8889 4177<br />
    Email: <a href="mailto:ppm@pmo.gov.my">ppm@pmo.gov.my</a></p>
<p>    Tan Sri Musa Hj Hassan<br />
    Inspector General of Police<br />
    Ibu Pejabat Polis Diraja Malaysia<br />
    Bukit Aman<br />
    50560 Kuala Lumpur<br />
    Tel: (03) 2262 6222 | Fax: (03) 2273 1326<br />
    Email: <a href="mailto:musa@rmp.gov.my">musa@rmp.gov.my</a></p>
<p>    Public Complaints Bureau<br />
    Prime Ministers Department<br />
    Online Complaints Form: <a href="http://apps.bpa.jpm.my/eApps/bpaiaducmpl/AduCmplPublic/add.do?aplCode=en" rel="nofollow">http://apps.bpa.jpm.my/eApps/bpaiaducmpl/AduCmplPublic/add.do?aplCode=en</a><br />
    Email: <a href="mailto:aduan@bpa.jpm.my">aduan@bpa.jpm.my</a><br />
    Tel: (03) 8888 7777 | Fax: (03) 8888 7778, 8888 3748</p>
<p>    Parliament Malaysia<br />
    Jalan Parlimen, 50680 Kuala Lumpur<br />
    Tel : 03-2072 1955 | Fax : 03-2070 4676<br />
    Email: <a href="mailto:info@parlimen.gov.my">info@parlimen.gov.my</a>  </p>
<p>REMEMBER THE CALL TO NATION BUILDING<br />
by His Royal Highness the Regent of Perak, Raja Nazrin:</p>
<p>    Malaysians of all races and religions need to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have a place under the Malaysian sun.</p>
<p>       1. Take personal ownership over the well-being of the country.<br />
       2. Do not succumb to indifference and apathy. Hold on to your ideals. Do not give way to cynicism and opportunism. Believe that you can make a difference.<br />
       3. Choose leaders who were earnest in building unity and did not resort to religious or ethnic posturing to further their careers.</p>
<p>    Raja Nazrin suggested three ways for sustained and effecive nation-building.</p>
<p>        * First, uphold the Constitution.<br />
        * Second, put in place economic and social justice.<br />
        * Third, good governance and a thriving civil society</p>
<p>REMEMBER Negara Kita, Tanggungjawab Kita (Our Country, Our Responsibility).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s build on this together.</p>
<p>Please forward this on to fellow Malaysians nationwide.</p>
<p>Pat Lu<br />
Pahlawan Volunteers<br />
<a href="http://www.pahlawan.com.my" rel="nofollow">http://www.pahlawan.com.my</a></p>
<p>Malaysian Mission Schools News Archive &#8211; Updated<br />
We are all ONE. When One is harmed, all are harmed.<br />
When One is helped, all are Healed.<br />
<a href="http://www.assuntaalumni.com/media/missionschools.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.assuntaalumni.com/media/missionschools.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lucia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wits
now that you brought it up (your first comment), yes, i should be offended too. &quot;malaysia will continue to allow...&quot;  &#039;to allow&#039; that is the condescending part - like you said, as if they have the right to dictate what they allowed and not allowed.don&#039;t tell me later on, they will say &quot;not allowed!&quot; :?

klaw
right! thank god for bloggers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wits<br />
now that you brought it up (your first comment), yes, i should be offended too. &#8220;malaysia will continue to allow&#8230;&#8221;  &#8216;to allow&#8217; that is the condescending part &#8211; like you said, as if they have the right to dictate what they allowed and not allowed.don&#8217;t tell me later on, they will say &#8220;not allowed!&#8221; <img src="http://lucialai.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_question.gif" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>klaw<br />
right! thank god for bloggers!</p>
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		<title>By: wits0</title>
		<link>http://lucialai.org/2007/12/05/remove-crucifixes-mp-explain-himself/comment-page-1/#comment-72511</link>
		<dc:creator>wits0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Konon-nya us bloggers misunderstand his intention.&quot;

Oh yeah, their intentions being so pure and bloggers being so stooopid...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Konon-nya us bloggers misunderstand his intention.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh yeah, their intentions being so pure and bloggers being so stooopid&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Klaw</title>
		<link>http://lucialai.org/2007/12/05/remove-crucifixes-mp-explain-himself/comment-page-1/#comment-72509</link>
		<dc:creator>Klaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ai, right now, Lim Kit Siang has given these 2 goons 48 hours for an apology, which I hope they will be smart enough to do.

Konon-nya us bloggers misunderstand his intention.

These people need blogs to remind them that this country is multi-religious, and there will not get away with talking crap right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ai, right now, Lim Kit Siang has given these 2 goons 48 hours for an apology, which I hope they will be smart enough to do.</p>
<p>Konon-nya us bloggers misunderstand his intention.</p>
<p>These people need blogs to remind them that this country is multi-religious, and there will not get away with talking crap right?</p>
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		<title>By: wits0</title>
		<link>http://lucialai.org/2007/12/05/remove-crucifixes-mp-explain-himself/comment-page-1/#comment-72484</link>
		<dc:creator>wits0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;MALAYSIA will continue to allow Christian missionary schools to display crosses, a minister said, following a furore over calls to remove them. &quot;
- Deputy Education Minister Noh Omar

Now, I&#039;m offended by that kind of irksome statements, one that hides the implication that he and his ilks have the right to deny that at any time they chose to.  And I&#039;m not a Christian btw.   Such &quot;generosity&quot;!   So darn exceedingly condescending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MALAYSIA will continue to allow Christian missionary schools to display crosses, a minister said, following a furore over calls to remove them. &#8221;<br />
- Deputy Education Minister Noh Omar</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m offended by that kind of irksome statements, one that hides the implication that he and his ilks have the right to deny that at any time they chose to.  And I&#8217;m not a Christian btw.   Such &#8220;generosity&#8221;!   So darn exceedingly condescending.</p>
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