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		<title>By: jusrme</title>
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		<dc:creator>jusrme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;testing
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&lt;strong&gt;lucia: hey justme, you are alive! where you disappear to eh? long long loonnnng time no see you! anyway so glad to see you again and hope to see you coming back with your comments.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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<p><strong>lucia: hey justme, you are alive! where you disappear to eh? long long loonnnng time no see you! anyway so glad to see you again and hope to see you coming back with your comments.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: rez</title>
		<link>http://lucialai.org/2006/11/13/those-religious-extremist-at-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2427</link>
		<dc:creator>rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fragile religion..so shaky that even ice cream and biscuits can totally ruin it! :lol

&lt;strong&gt;lucia: and also a cartoon, a book... the list goes on....&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fragile religion..so shaky that even ice cream and biscuits can totally ruin it! :<img src="http://lucialai.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/lol.gif" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p><strong>lucia: and also a cartoon, a book&#8230; the list goes on&#8230;.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Simple American</title>
		<link>http://lucialai.org/2006/11/13/those-religious-extremist-at-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2393</link>
		<dc:creator>Simple American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Cannot even eat ice cream in peace.

&lt;strong&gt;lucia: poor SA. :)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Cannot even eat ice cream in peace.</p>
<p><strong>lucia: poor SA. <img src="http://lucialai.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" class="wp-smiley" /></strong></p>
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		<title>By: wits0</title>
		<link>http://lucialai.org/2006/11/13/those-religious-extremist-at-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2391</link>
		<dc:creator>wits0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the word &quot;paranoia&quot; is a more exacting word/description than &quot;phobia&quot; here, because :

from Oxford Concise Dictionary,
paranoia Â· n.
1 a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance.
2 unjustified suspicion and mistrust of others.

whereas 
phobia Â· n. = an extreme or irrational fear of something.

The very ppl who are so paranoiac over the cross in fact is wearing hundreds of thousands of them all over their person - how do you think fabrics are spiun if not in criss-crossing patterns with the yarn at 90 degrees with one other?!





 :D :D :?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the word &#8220;paranoia&#8221; is a more exacting word/description than &#8220;phobia&#8221; here, because :</p>
<p>from Oxford Concise Dictionary,<br />
paranoia Â· n.<br />
1 a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance.<br />
2 unjustified suspicion and mistrust of others.</p>
<p>whereas<br />
phobia Â· n. = an extreme or irrational fear of something.</p>
<p>The very ppl who are so paranoiac over the cross in fact is wearing hundreds of thousands of them all over their person &#8211; how do you think fabrics are spiun if not in criss-crossing patterns with the yarn at 90 degrees with one other?!</p>
<p> <img src="http://lucialai.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/yahoo4.gif" class="wp-smiley" /> <img src="http://lucialai.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/yahoo4.gif" class="wp-smiley" /> <img src="http://lucialai.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_question.gif" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Maverick SM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maverick SM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The law of coincidence....

However, since Muslims are suffering phobias, the manufacturers should understand the risks.

I felt ashamed that Islam is observed as weak to some Muslims that anything that looks alike or resembles could strike fear in them. Islamophobia has now become Islamicphobia.

&lt;strong&gt;lucia: &quot;However, since Muslims are suffering phobias, the manufacturers should understand the risks.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;i disagree. why should manufacturers bow down to them just because they are phobia?Â &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law of coincidence&#8230;.</p>
<p>However, since Muslims are suffering phobias, the manufacturers should understand the risks.</p>
<p>I felt ashamed that Islam is observed as weak to some Muslims that anything that looks alike or resembles could strike fear in them. Islamophobia has now become Islamicphobia.</p>
<p><strong>lucia: &#8220;However, since Muslims are suffering phobias, the manufacturers should understand the risks.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>i disagree. why should manufacturers bow down to them just because they are phobia?Â </strong></p>
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		<title>By: BrightEyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrightEyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think BK&#039;s ice-cream logo looks like, as Ah Pek says... a huge pile of shit.

Ex:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/xtreme_dtot1.jpg

Chocolate colored too....

&lt;strong&gt;lucia: actually i never thought of that before until ah pek&#039;s comments but since i had a warning to ah pek, i had better not think/say of it. ;)&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;nice shit of a picture, btw. :)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think BK&#8217;s ice-cream logo looks like, as Ah Pek says&#8230; a huge pile of shit.</p>
<p>Ex:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/xtreme_dtot1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/xtreme_dtot1.jpg</a></p>
<p>Chocolate colored too&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>lucia: actually i never thought of that before until ah pek&#8217;s comments but since i had a warning to ah pek, i had better not think/say of it. <img src="http://lucialai.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/yahoo3.gif" class="wp-smiley" /></strong></p>
<p><strong>nice shit of a picture, btw. <img src="http://lucialai.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" class="wp-smiley" /></strong></p>
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		<title>By: wits0</title>
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		<dc:creator>wits0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Latuk understands the limit of his worldview and not implicitly foisted it as supreme, he wouldn&#039;t have gotten kutok. 8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Latuk understands the limit of his worldview and not implicitly foisted it as supreme, he wouldn&#8217;t have gotten kutok. 8)</p>
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		<title>By: wits0</title>
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		<dc:creator>wits0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a muslimâ€™s sensitivity can never be understood by some non-muslims&quot;

Why not?  It&#039;s not as if one lives in another planet or a parallel universe.  All has a mind and there&#039;s no greater power in the animal, humankind or the deva world than what the mind can understand or wrought through the usage of it.  And with this intelligence which can be developed and finely honed lay the salvation or doom of humanity and/or sentient beings when atropied or stunted.

One can understand a thing but understanding does not include agreeing to the given idea.  When any idea is faulty, it&#039;s only natural for the wise to diasagree with it.  

The keyword is &#039;wisdom&#039;, and this does not come by  (unthinking) faith or indoctrination but by analysis and clear thinking free from superstition or dogmas. A thing does not become true because lots of people believe in it.  That merely amounts to the fallacious Argumentum ad numerum (argument or appeal to numbers). 

Sensitivity, btw, is basically a subjective response.  It&#039;s also something you have to accord the same amount to others before yours can be regarded legit.  IOW, unless one lives by the Golden Rule of Reciprocity, the so proclaimed &#039;sensitivity&#039; may well be the endless baggage of excessive pride that finds easy offense with many things.  And this can be overbearingly oppressive.  A certain reason for getting bashed over the Net  is to lay claim to more rights to self  and company than is accorded to others via ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a muslimâ€™s sensitivity can never be understood by some non-muslims&#8221;</p>
<p>Why not?  It&#8217;s not as if one lives in another planet or a parallel universe.  All has a mind and there&#8217;s no greater power in the animal, humankind or the deva world than what the mind can understand or wrought through the usage of it.  And with this intelligence which can be developed and finely honed lay the salvation or doom of humanity and/or sentient beings when atropied or stunted.</p>
<p>One can understand a thing but understanding does not include agreeing to the given idea.  When any idea is faulty, it&#8217;s only natural for the wise to diasagree with it.  </p>
<p>The keyword is &#8216;wisdom&#8217;, and this does not come by  (unthinking) faith or indoctrination but by analysis and clear thinking free from superstition or dogmas. A thing does not become true because lots of people believe in it.  That merely amounts to the fallacious Argumentum ad numerum (argument or appeal to numbers). </p>
<p>Sensitivity, btw, is basically a subjective response.  It&#8217;s also something you have to accord the same amount to others before yours can be regarded legit.  IOW, unless one lives by the Golden Rule of Reciprocity, the so proclaimed &#8217;sensitivity&#8217; may well be the endless baggage of excessive pride that finds easy offense with many things.  And this can be overbearingly oppressive.  A certain reason for getting bashed over the Net  is to lay claim to more rights to self  and company than is accorded to others via ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: SK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some Muslims reported to PPIM about the cross on the ice cream. and PPIM took certain actions, namely trying to get an explanation from Walls, making a press statement, and lodging a police report. how&#039;s that &quot;freaking out&quot;? wouldn&#039;t that be like the most civilized thing to do? to let the law handle it?

i hope we are not talking about what is sensitive and what is not because a muslim&#039;s sensitivity can never be understood by some non-muslims. but the PPIM&#039;s actions in handling the issue are nowhere near extreme.

i would agree if you&#039;re referring to the &quot;mat rempits&quot; who threw stones at church goers, now that is &quot;freaking out&quot; and definitely extreme.

&lt;strong&gt;lucia: to me PPIM&#039;s reaction in reporting to police re: the cross on the biscuit is indeed extreme... and freaking out. why? because this is really nothing to get sensitive over. it&#039;s just a design. why, if PPIM wants to look out for the cross symbol as designs on biscuits, any other food, anything usable, etc, they will sure find many of them. and what&#039;s so wrong with the cross symbol (which is actually hardly noticeable) when it is just a design - a design that would not shake your faith if your faith is strong.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some Muslims reported to PPIM about the cross on the ice cream. and PPIM took certain actions, namely trying to get an explanation from Walls, making a press statement, and lodging a police report. how&#8217;s that &#8220;freaking out&#8221;? wouldn&#8217;t that be like the most civilized thing to do? to let the law handle it?</p>
<p>i hope we are not talking about what is sensitive and what is not because a muslim&#8217;s sensitivity can never be understood by some non-muslims. but the PPIM&#8217;s actions in handling the issue are nowhere near extreme.</p>
<p>i would agree if you&#8217;re referring to the &#8220;mat rempits&#8221; who threw stones at church goers, now that is &#8220;freaking out&#8221; and definitely extreme.</p>
<p><strong>lucia: to me PPIM&#8217;s reaction in reporting to police re: the cross on the biscuit is indeed extreme&#8230; and freaking out. why? because this is really nothing to get sensitive over. it&#8217;s just a design. why, if PPIM wants to look out for the cross symbol as designs on biscuits, any other food, anything usable, etc, they will sure find many of them. and what&#8217;s so wrong with the cross symbol (which is actually hardly noticeable) when it is just a design &#8211; a design that would not shake your faith if your faith is strong.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: SK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in my opinion, the PPIM is again exercising their rights based on their sensitivity. they are not hoping that all of Malaysia would understand. but they are delivering what they thought was right and sensitive to Muslims in Malaysia. although i don&#039;t agree that it was &quot;percubaan untuk menyebarkan unsur agama lain kepada penduduk yang majoritinya beragama islam&quot; but sensitivity is a real thing and a reality in Malaysia.

&lt;strong&gt;lucia: ahh... but remember, sensitivity should be a two way street.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my opinion, the PPIM is again exercising their rights based on their sensitivity. they are not hoping that all of Malaysia would understand. but they are delivering what they thought was right and sensitive to Muslims in Malaysia. although i don&#8217;t agree that it was &#8220;percubaan untuk menyebarkan unsur agama lain kepada penduduk yang majoritinya beragama islam&#8221; but sensitivity is a real thing and a reality in Malaysia.</p>
<p><strong>lucia: ahh&#8230; but remember, sensitivity should be a two way street.</strong></p>
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