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those religious extremist at it again
folks, let’s all have a treat today - what almost everyone love - ice cream! ice cream from burger king. look! ain’t the lid of the ice cream box lovely (picture left)? nice picture of a spinning/swirl ice cream cone. wait, let’s rotate the picture to the left… and voila! what do you see? (see picture below). still a nice picture of a spinning ice cream right? well, if you know how to read arabic, what will you see?
well, according to one muslim, the design of the swirling ice cream resembled the arabic inscription for ‘allah’, and he screamed “sacrilegious!” and threaten a jihad.
can you believe that?? this is so crazy!! wait… that’s not all. just because of this, burger king was forced to withdraw the ice cream lid and apologised to the muslim council.
oh boy! apologised for doing no wrong at all? apologised just because of some over-sensitive, over-reacting muslim? and to think burger king has to spend thousands of pounds to re-design the lid.
oh gosh! this is another case of some zealous muslim’s over-reaction and the world has to bow down to its wishes… because if not, ‘jihad’ (burning of buildings? killing innocent people?) will occur. remember the swedish cartoon of prophet mohammad’s caricature? remember the pope’s remark? *sigh* when will this ever end?
to me, the design on the ice cream lid is nothing but just a design of a swirl of ice cream cone. whether it does resembled the arabic word for allah or not, doesn’t matter. the thing is people only see what they want to see. something innocent will become sacrilegious to them. it’s like they purposely want to create trouble, so go all out to see ’something wrong’. how sad. remember the saying ‘if you go all out to look for trouble, you will definitely find it, but if you don’t, then there’ll be no trouble at all.’
still on the subject of ice cream, and now this happened right in our bolehland. the ‘persatuan pengguna islam malaysia‘ - PPIM (malaysia muslim consumer association) made a police report that one of the new wall’s ice cream - the ‘moo walls’ ice cream biscuit has the symbol of a cross on it. look at the picture below, taken from their website: 
the two red arrows points to a cross symbol on the biscuit. huh? for that they want to make noises? famous blogger jeff ooi blogs on this and i found the comments of the first commenter real ridiculous. this is part of what s/he said:
aiskrim walls yang dimaksudkan memang mengandungi lambang salib. tidak salah utk kami membantah kerana ini adalah percubaan untuk menyebarkan unsur agama lain kepada penduduk yang majoritinya beragama islam.
lightly translated to english:
the walls ice cream did have the cross symbol. it is not wrong for us to protest because this is an attempt to spread another religion to the majority of the citizen who are muslim.
i laughed so much when i read this. first of all, if the ‘cross’ on the biscuit hasn’t been pointed out by PPIM, nobody would have notice it. secondly, the ‘cross’ is just a design on the biscuit (like the design of the burger king ice cream lid). thirdly, it is so ridiculous to think that one can propagate one’s faith through a cross symbol on an ice cream biscuit. finally it is even more ridiculous to think that a muslim on partaking of this biscuit, just because s/he sees a cross on it, can suddenly have the urge to want to convert to christianity.
the comment of that one person is really an insult to other muslim. i am sure that majority of the muslim doesn’t think like him. how on earth can an ice cream biscuit with lovely designs, some of which resembles crosses, ‘take away’ your faith?
some over zealous muslim seems to go overboard at the slightest view of a cross. remember at one time our RM5 ringgit note, the design of a sphere of a tower, there is a horizontal line over the long tower (vertical), thus, it resemble a cross… and they too made noises… so much so that the notes had to be withdrawn by bank negara (if i remember correctly… or at least slowly phased out).
i really can’t understand these people - the cross symbol appearing on a biscuit or currency note will diminish their faith?
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on November 13th, 2006 at 2:56 am
Where got resemblance wrt the Burger King of some time ago and similarly with the latest ice cream thing? The insidious underground jihadists got encouraged because of the Burger apology, it appears - they’re characteristically triumphalistic, and don’t we know that? They think they have triumph for their creed but in reality, they’ve opened more the eyes of the world to its malady.
lucia: yeah, the more they made noises, the more we know their true selves.
on November 13th, 2006 at 4:42 am
im not trying to talk bad about anybody but i seriously think people shouldn’t make a big fuss over small things.
lucia: exactly! the cross symbol on the ice cream biscuit is nothing at all. why, if you want to, look carefully at most biscuits, you might spot crosses here and there too.
on November 13th, 2006 at 8:58 am
i really can’t understand these people. The design looks like a lump of shit to me. How can someone create a contravesy over a lump of shit?
lucia: careful ah pek… next thing you know, these extremists might shout jihad at you for referring to their arabic allah name as a lump of shit.
on November 13th, 2006 at 10:28 am
LOL!!!
I like the one where it says that the Moo Cream thingy was spreading Xtianity.
Ah Pek… I can create controversy over anything, given time. Humans all can.
BTW.. if you want interesting references,check the old Nike Air logo. It was withdrawn for the same reason, though the original intent was to style it ghetto style
lucia: true, chewxy. as i mentioned about if you look for trouble, trouble will come to you. one when getting ‘gatal’ and all that, will go and create controversy out of nothing.
on November 13th, 2006 at 10:53 am
“oh gosh! this is another case of some zealous muslim’s over-reaction and the world has to bow down to its wishes… because if not, ‘jihad’ (burning of buildings? killing innocent people?) will occur. remember the swedish cartoon of prophet mohammad’s caricature? remember the pope’s remark? *sigh* when will this ever end?”
*sigh* to you too. reacting to your last question in the quoted para, it can if people like you can start taking meanings truly to its context. that particular Muslim said:
“He was not satisfied by the decision to withdraw the cones and has called on Muslims to boycott Burger King. He said: “This is my jihad. How can you say it is a spinning swirl? If you spin it one way to the right you are offending Muslims.”
when he said, “this is my jihad”, he was not implying that he is going to burn buildings or kill anyone. “jihad” in this context, is referring to his way to express his anger in this issue - which is by “boycotting Burger King”. “jihad” doesn’t necessarily refers to violence acts. he is exercising his right to express his feelings - which is anger; and he calls for the boycott - which is his right too.
some people in some other parts of the world may interprete “jihad” in other forms; based on the issues that they are facing. and that is understandable for “jihad” does not carry one type of action. but this particular guy was referring to his boycotting action and not violence acts. you have taken it out of context.
lucia: true, jihad doesn’t necessarily means violence but the way some extremists muslim potrays jihad makes us non muslim thinks otherwise. whose fault is it?
ok i admit maybe i did take that particular muslim’s jihad out of context. minta maaf ya? if he really means jihad as in boycotting only, not violent acts, good. however, even if it just boycotting action, i disagree and totally against, because to me this is a small matter, why made a mountain out of a molehill? hope you won’t give that “because you are not a muslim, you don’t understand” argument. if you feel he calling for a boycott is his right, then it is also burger king’s right to have whatever design they want on the ice cream lid.
on November 13th, 2006 at 11:02 am
similarly, when i tried to correct misconceptions of Islam among non-muslims in the blogosphere, i consider it to be a “jihad” too. my “jihad”. there is nothing wrong with the word “jihad”. unless, i start to burn and kill bloggers who disagree with me. now, if that happens, i may at that time claim that as “jihad” as well, but of course that would be a wrong one - and for me to claim it to be a “jihad” then doesn’t make it ultimately the “jihad” as thought by Islam.
lucia: ok. thanks for further explaining the word jihad. i understand what you are trying to say… but don’t you think this will be an overkill of the using the word jihad?
on November 13th, 2006 at 11:41 am
Malaysia should be very successful in curbing “piracy” with all these religious watchdog around us. Don’t “cross” your leg while you are sitting, there might be another jihad, accusing you for spreading other religion.
lucia: haha. i never look at the ‘crossing of legs’ representing ‘lambang salib’ before.
on November 13th, 2006 at 11:43 am
oh gosh, *jot jot*, another trait of malaysians;
- freaking out
previously;
- apologising
- rempitism
anymore? this is the real mental jog.
lucia: yep, freaking out at something so unimportant and so small… or at the slightest rumour (like the sms re: baptism in the ipoh church).
on November 13th, 2006 at 11:53 am
errata on the last sentence of my most recent comment:
“thought” should have been “taught”. sorry..
anyway, “nice” responses. i wonder where the “freaking out” was. of course, some may imagine me saying those in loud anger and holding an AK47. now, that is typical. hehe.. whateverlah..
on November 13th, 2006 at 12:04 pm
in my opinion, the PPIM is again exercising their rights based on their sensitivity. they are not hoping that all of Malaysia would understand. but they are delivering what they thought was right and sensitive to Muslims in Malaysia. although i don’t agree that it was “percubaan untuk menyebarkan unsur agama lain kepada penduduk yang majoritinya beragama islam” but sensitivity is a real thing and a reality in Malaysia.
lucia: ahh… but remember, sensitivity should be a two way street.
on November 13th, 2006 at 1:55 pm
some Muslims reported to PPIM about the cross on the ice cream. and PPIM took certain actions, namely trying to get an explanation from Walls, making a press statement, and lodging a police report. how’s that “freaking out”? wouldn’t that be like the most civilized thing to do? to let the law handle it?
i hope we are not talking about what is sensitive and what is not because a muslim’s sensitivity can never be understood by some non-muslims. but the PPIM’s actions in handling the issue are nowhere near extreme.
i would agree if you’re referring to the “mat rempits” who threw stones at church goers, now that is “freaking out” and definitely extreme.
lucia: to me PPIM’s reaction in reporting to police re: the cross on the biscuit is indeed extreme… and freaking out. why? because this is really nothing to get sensitive over. it’s just a design. why, if PPIM wants to look out for the cross symbol as designs on biscuits, any other food, anything usable, etc, they will sure find many of them. and what’s so wrong with the cross symbol (which is actually hardly noticeable) when it is just a design - a design that would not shake your faith if your faith is strong.
on November 13th, 2006 at 2:51 pm
“a muslim’s sensitivity can never be understood by some non-muslims”
Why not? It’s not as if one lives in another planet or a parallel universe. All has a mind and there’s no greater power in the animal, humankind or the deva world than what the mind can understand or wrought through the usage of it. And with this intelligence which can be developed and finely honed lay the salvation or doom of humanity and/or sentient beings when atropied or stunted.
One can understand a thing but understanding does not include agreeing to the given idea. When any idea is faulty, it’s only natural for the wise to diasagree with it.
The keyword is ‘wisdom’, and this does not come by (unthinking) faith or indoctrination but by analysis and clear thinking free from superstition or dogmas. A thing does not become true because lots of people believe in it. That merely amounts to the fallacious Argumentum ad numerum (argument or appeal to numbers).
Sensitivity, btw, is basically a subjective response. It’s also something you have to accord the same amount to others before yours can be regarded legit. IOW, unless one lives by the Golden Rule of Reciprocity, the so proclaimed ’sensitivity’ may well be the endless baggage of excessive pride that finds easy offense with many things. And this can be overbearingly oppressive. A certain reason for getting bashed over the Net is to lay claim to more rights to self and company than is accorded to others via ideology.
on November 13th, 2006 at 2:55 pm
If the Latuk understands the limit of his worldview and not implicitly foisted it as supreme, he wouldn’t have gotten kutok. 8)
on November 13th, 2006 at 11:45 pm
Actually, I think BK’s ice-cream logo looks like, as Ah Pek says… a huge pile of shit.
Ex:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/xtreme_dtot1.jpg
Chocolate colored too….
lucia: actually i never thought of that before until ah pek’s comments but since i had a warning to ah pek, i had better not think/say of it.
nice shit of a picture, btw.
on November 14th, 2006 at 12:46 am
The law of coincidence….
However, since Muslims are suffering phobias, the manufacturers should understand the risks.
I felt ashamed that Islam is observed as weak to some Muslims that anything that looks alike or resembles could strike fear in them. Islamophobia has now become Islamicphobia.
lucia: “However, since Muslims are suffering phobias, the manufacturers should understand the risks.”
i disagree. why should manufacturers bow down to them just because they are phobia?Â
on November 14th, 2006 at 3:41 am
Perhaps the word “paranoia” is a more exacting word/description than “phobia” here, because :
from Oxford Concise Dictionary,
paranoia · n.
1 a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance.
2 unjustified suspicion and mistrust of others.
whereas
phobia · n. = an extreme or irrational fear of something.
The very ppl who are so paranoiac over the cross in fact is wearing hundreds of thousands of them all over their person - how do you think fabrics are spiun if not in criss-crossing patterns with the yarn at 90 degrees with one other?!
on November 14th, 2006 at 3:47 am
Wow! Cannot even eat ice cream in peace.
lucia: poor SA.
on November 14th, 2006 at 9:30 pm
What a fragile religion..so shaky that even ice cream and biscuits can totally ruin it! :
lucia: and also a cartoon, a book… the list goes on….
on November 20th, 2006 at 3:44 pm
testing
lucia: hey justme, you are alive! where you disappear to eh? long long loonnnng time no see you! anyway so glad to see you again and hope to see you coming back with your comments.